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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 545
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 - 3:40 am:   

When I finished posting my last messsage I went to check my e-mail and, lo and behold, there was a message from WINZIP, advertising their latest version. Wouldn't you know, one of the new features is the abilty to send large files via their own e-mail service?

That's eight!

Incidentally, I noticed that my previous message has a stated time of 3:24 AM. The actual time here was 4:24. It seems somebody didn't change to Daylight Savings Time.

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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Post Number: 544
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 - 3:24 am:   

BTW - thanks for all the help, everybody

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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Post Number: 543
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 - 3:23 am:   

David (H) and all - Dropbox succeeded in transferring the large file I mentioned, although the transfer speed was reported as "slow" by the recipient.

I counted up the number of file transfer services mentioned during the course of this discussion, and there were seven different ones listed by various people. I suppose I should have no problems transferring files in the future (as long as I remember to use them)!

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David W. Hopkins (dhopkins)
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Post Number: 234
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 8:57 pm:   

Hi Howard,

Yes, YouSendIt lowered their size limit for a free file, so I have stopped using them. I have found that WeTransfer.com is as convenient as YouSendIt used to be.

It's interesting to hear of the other possibilities.

Best regards,
Dave
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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 542
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 1:07 pm:   

David - thanks for the hint. Right now, though, my immediate need is not for "features", it's just to do something very simple: send the file to someone else, with minimum fuss at either end. Dropbox seems to be doing the job, although a preliminary report from the recipient is that it's slow.

To be honest, though, I just realized how dumb I can be. I finally just remembered that I could have put the file on my OWN web page and just send the link to that! I'll do that if Dropbox causes any problems. I used to do it that way routinely, until I discovered yousendit.com. The only downside is that I have to remember to take the file off, after the transfer. Now it's been so long since I've done it that way that it's not second nature any more!

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David Semmes (dsemmes)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 6-2010
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 10:24 am:   

Hi Howard!

I haven�t tried the options for sharing files with others, but I really like SugarSync. I think Dropbox gives you more space for free, but my impression without evaluating it carefully has been that SugarSync has more features etc.

Fyi, I also really like Evernote for quickly and easily saving and organizing static copies of webpages.

Have a good day!

David
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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 541
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 9:24 am:   

Friedrich - I had occasion to send a large file, and when I tried using yousendit.com I found that their limit on file size was 50 megabytes. I thought it was 100 megabytes, and maybe it was, but they seem to have changed that.

I'm trying Dropbox next.

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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 540
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 4:10 pm:   

Good points from Farshad and Frederick. I've used yousendit.com myself. I find it useful and robust. The only downside is that for small files, it's somewhat less convenient and more fussy than just attaching a file to an e-mail message. On the other hand, once you have to go changing extensions, etc., that disadvantage goes away, too.

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David Russell (russell)
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Username: russell

Post Number: 59
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 3:59 pm:   

Looks like you've studied up some and got some good advice on alternatives.

Corporate email systems try to build in more thoughtful filters rather than arbitrarily deleting based on the file type.

But then there are usually size restrictions, so use of a third party file exchange product such as YouSendIt or Dropbox is generally easier than trying to work around Microsoft security rules.
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Farshad Farshidfar (farshad)
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Username: farshad

Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2012
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 3:08 pm:   

Dr Menges is right. I believe the first step is to se a password using .ZIP or .RAR approach to prevent third parties from accessing your data, whatever it is. But secondly you cane easily use online services and send just the link. I personally prefer mediafire.com. Hope this help.
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Dr. Friedrich Menges (effemm2)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2012
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 2:17 pm:   

Hi all,

why not use one of the cloud-based file-sharing services available like YouSendIt, WeTransfer, DropBox, FileDropper and the like! They are free, allow huge file sizes and don't care about extensions:-)
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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 539
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 1:18 pm:   

Scott - thanks for sending that link. I haven't read it in detail yet, but enough to learn some useful things.

First, file extensions interact with the security setting in Intenet Explorer, and which also controls Outlook Express.

Second, the .MAT extension is by default listed as "high risk" in the Windows software. Some other extension are considered "medium risk"; these include .TXT.

Third, "hiding" a high-risk or medium-risk file inside a .ZIP file doesn't help, because WINDOWS keeps track and will catch the file extension when you open the .ZIP file.

Fourth, you can permanently change or control the interactions, but it's s somewhat involved procedure, and in any case you then give up the security protections, so you have to be careful.

However, I also note a possible workaround. Several extensions are listed as "low risk". These are extensions used mainly for graphics files: .BMP, .JPG, etc. If you change the extension on your file to a low-risk extension, then windows will treat it as that type of file, and not block it. Then you can attach it to the message and WINDOWS will ignore the file when it comes in. Afterward the recipient can save the file and restore the correct (actual) extension. An extra requirement for this is for the sender to notify the recipeint that the file extension has been changed and (s)he has to change it back.

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Art Springsteen (artspring)
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Username: artspring

Post Number: 52
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 1:11 pm:   

Hello,

Similar problems (don't get me started on the newer versions of Microsoft Excell...) but there is a cure.
Don't use Internet Explorer. Not that Google and Google mail don't have their own issues, but we've never seen file transfer problems sending things by g-mail.
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Scott Ramos (lsramos)
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Username: lsramos

Post Number: 11
Registered: 1-2007
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 12:50 pm:   

Howard, I feel your pain. Microsoft (aka Big Brother) does take some rather drastic actions sometimes. We have had to change the extension used by one of our save formats because Windows 7 always thought it a music file, no matter what we did (and would crash our software).

Anyway, this support page has some relevant background:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883260

You could try using zip but I find that may not be sufficient for compressed exe files, for example. What I usually do is zip, then rename the extension to something innocuous before sending. Of course, tell the user to rename the extension when they receive.

HTH,
Scott
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Howard Mark (hlmark)
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Username: hlmark

Post Number: 538
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 9:34 am:   

Microsoft has finally gone too far. Here's something that just happened to me this morning. I had asked Tony Davies to send me some data, that he had used for a joint paper with Tormod Naes.

The message, with the data attached to it, just came in this morning. Tony sent the data in EXCEL, Unscrambler and MATLAB formats. When the message came in, there was a yellow text bar at the top: "OE has removed access to the following unsafe attachments to your mail: files Naes_1_RD.MAT, NIR1_Naes.MAT, NIR2_Naes.MAT" and sure enough, the MATLAB files were missing! Where does Microsoft come off to arbitrarily decide to delete someone else's files from a message that was sent, that they wouldn't know what was in it even if a human was doing the deleting???!!!

It's a good thing Tony sent the data in other formats too. But be warned: if you transfer data (or anything, maybe) in the future, especially if it's a MATLAB file, you should apply WINZIP to the data first, even for small files. I think even Microsoft would leave a .ZIP file alone (maybe not, though)! And maybe you should apply password protection to it, too, to make sure Microsoft's tentacles won't reach into your data.

Has anybody else had that happen to them or ever heard of anything like this?

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